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thepoliticalgame

If it did in fact go down as claimed, it is a major betrayal of a friendship and even of certain rights to privacy that a legislator should be cognizant of. I feel for this Halper fella.

And an excellent post from Wordsmith!

Wordsmith

According to Zeb Bell, he and Rep. Bert Stevenson (R-Rupert) had a three-hour meeting at Bell's home to discuss ....

Three hours!!! Who the hell spends three hours with anyone unless you're in love with that person? Or you're planning something. (???) I AM serious. THAT is a long time.

You really do have to feel for Mr. Halper. That's a HUGE boundary thing - as you say, Tara, a major betrayal of friendship.

Sisyphus

It was indeed a cowardly act. Loyalty seems to be a quality lost on Stevenson and Bell bringing into question their honor and integrity. As Bell lacks credibility from just comparing his own statements the case can be easily made against him.

thepoliticalgame

Lol. You crack me up Wordsmith! S'pose I didn't think much about who spends three hours with another person...

MountainGoat

You know what I find absolutely hilarious is that a state legislator and a radio host would be so concerned about a couple of "cripple-finger, welfare-taking, keyboard coward, scurrying rats" that it would require a three hour strategy session to deal with the matter. And from Zeb's description of the meeting and the events that followed, it clearly was a strategy session--a damage control strategy session.

And if in fact Stevenson gave Zeb this guy's phone number, that's unforgivable and no amount of damage control will fix it.

Wordsmith

"a damage control strategy session" - three hours? Not very productive then. We had a staff meeting for our dept that was scheduled for 3 hours; we were done in almost 2 - and that included LUNCH, and the economic report on the hospital's budget from our CEO. AND even with being out for almost 2 hours, I still managed to get the minimum of work (plus a bit) we're required to produce in an 8-hour period.

And if - as he so claims, there's no reason to justify or defend what he does or says then why bother with damage control? He's just a loud-mouth bullsh**tter; a bully, as you name him.

I did pick up a copy of the Boise Weekly to read over the story again. He just doesn't appear to have a very logical stream of thought and it's even worse reading that crap in black & white print.

I'm so majorally impressed with what you and Tara have accomplished. Kudos is about all I can give at this point.

Wordsmith

Forgot about Mr. Halper.

As I read that LTE from Mr. Halper - and if I am (and others are) correctly reading it - according to Mr. Halper, Mr. Stevenson DID give said email with personal phone number to Zeb Bell. That really does call into question quite a bit about Mr. Stevenson's, most prominently his judgment.

Yeah, I think that's about it.

Coward of the County (& KEYBOARD)

You know, Wordsmith may be on to something. As I recall New Jersey Gov. James McGreevey used to rail against homosexuality and even vetoed a civil union bill, only to later come out. Not saying anything here, but you can draw your own conclusions.

As for how Zeb obtained the Lee Halper's phone number? It's anyone's guess. Halper has been a watch dog of Jerome County government for sometime and helped expose the County Commission's illegal self payment of hundreds of thousands of dollars in overtime. (http://www.accessmylibrary.com/coms2/summary_0286-30665742_ITM) So where's the connection? Zeb is best friends with Republican Commission Chairman Charlie Howell who despises Halper. Zeb probably talked with Stevenson, and if Stevenson didn't have it, he likely got it from Howell. Zeb has belittled Halper over a number of issues in the past and has placed him on his official "caca" list.

I don't always see eye to eye with Halper, but it takes some tough nuts to stand up to big money, business (CAFOs) and the Republican "mafia."

MountainGoat

Let me just say this about the accusations of whether Stevenson did in fact give the number to Zeb... we don't know. Anyone can make claims and accusations. Unless someone has the facts to back up the accusations, it's important that we leave it as an interesting question, not a statement of fact.

As for the length of the meeting... According to Zeb, he and his wife and Stevenson and his wife are close friends. I don't find it strange at all that a person would hang out with friends for three hours. I do find it strange that Zeb dismisses the bloggers as "little scurrying rats" but then feels the need to strategize about how to handle the controversy. *That* as I said before, I find hilarious.

MountainGoat

...and please, let's don't go making insinuations about anyone's orientation here.

Wordsmith

["As for the length of the meeting... According to Zeb, he and his wife and Stevenson and his wife are close friends."]

I see - even more reason to call into question Mr. Stevenson's judgement. Ah, I kid. I kid.

No - I don't know who gained Mr. Halper's cell phone number. And to be honest, I don't know that I care. Just simply noting that my reading of Mr. Halper's missive ...... yadda, yadda.

Nor did I realize the two culprits were 'close friends.' Sure, I can see how - and I've been known to do it myself - folks spend all kinds of time, sometimes hours, with people who they enjoy.

["I do find it strange that Zeb dismisses the bloggers as "little scurrying rats" but then feels the need to strategize about how to handle the controversy. *That* as I said before, I find hilarious."]

Exactly. I find more stupidity in it than humor because of the leap across some great chasm in logic; however that's just my take.

I did note that Mr. Halper has some link to fighting CAFOs and a few other things. Does Mr. Bell have the same kind of community involvement? Or is his community involvement limited to his radio show?

Cowarrd of the Keyboard

My error. Thanks for the intervention and keeping us on our toes MG!

thepoliticalgame

Bell's community involvement is not limited to his radio show.

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