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Sysiphus

No you're not wrong, Donnie. He had no business saying that about the British in WWII.

I hung my head in shame when I read about this in the Statesman today. I agree, most people feel it was an accident but this report is the first time I've heard about a British review that disagrees with the American findings. So while I'm sure it was an accident, I'm not so sure it wasn't negligent.

But like the reasons for the Iraq War, Mr. Anderson's attitude is a construct of the neo-conservatives that created it and the Republicans that champion it. The contentions for fanning the flames of this war are rooted in xenophobia, ingorance coupled with deliberate misinformation and misguided patriotism. Mr. Anderson is a vicitim of that and I actually feel a little sorry for him because he chose to drink the Kool-aid and the hangover is going to be a bitch. Hopefully the backlash that will come from this will expose him and his views to the light of day. Unfortunately his views are prevalent here in our state and I while party faithful may shift the focus of their ignorant rants I don't suffer under the delusion these boneheads will admit their mistakes. The Iraq War is not and never was in our national interests.

MountainGoat

Okay Sysiphus, I'll admit it. You've stumped me with that Donnie reference.

You do bring up some good points but I'm not sure I agree that Anderson is a victim. Victim implies an inability to control the outcome; perhaps product would be a more apt term. [I could spend many hours detailing my thoughts on Iraq and how we have arrived at this point, but I'll save that for another day. For now I'll just say that for the American public as a whole, I have no doubt that we all share the same desire for peace and security...we just have very different views on how to obtain that.]

So here's some more on our fellow Idahoan.

Anderson does make a lame attempt at an apology which can be viewed here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3rEykLZLGo

but the Statesman article quotes him saying this:

"I offer no apology, just a clarification to my remarks that were not prepared."

Kind of a conundrum, this guy.

Sysiphus

A very obscure reference to the Big Lebowski, the Coen Brothers movie, and John Goodman's character. And I muffed it anyway since Donnie was the guy he was constantly berating. Goodman's character often repeated the phrase "am I wrong?".

Oh I say vicitm with tongue planted in cheek. I do that just to make the point that he is a creation of the propganda arm of the administration. Actually I've been getting in their face about the Iraq War since before the Iraq War. These are the people who believe all Islam is the enemy of the US and are currently beating the drum for warring with Iran. Apparently we outlawed the perpetuation of negative stereotypes based upon race and religion in our domestic policy but not our foriegn policy. They all are an emabarassment.

Thanks for following this but I hope the story dies a dishonorable death.

Sysiphus

Hey MG, Eldon responds here as well:

http://www.newwest.net/index.php/city/article/ignorant_boise_man_insults_us_all/C108/L108/

Mike McNicholas

Unfortunately Mr Anderson lives upto worlwide expectations of the typical American, big mouth no brains, ever likely they are the most disliked in the world.
I accept that the vast majority of Americans are sensible sensitive and honest people, but guys like Anderson do nothing to help reinforce our efforts.
God help us all if I am wrong.

MountainGoat

Hey Mike, good news. There's some evidence that Mr. Anderson is in a declining minority; even in a state as conservative as Idaho in a county as conservative as Canyon County (about as conservative as they come,) people are coming to the realization that tough talk and big guns don't solve all the world's problems. Check out this (completely unscientific) poll:

http://mountaingoatreport.typepad.com/the_mountaingoat_report/2007/02/canyon_county_s.html

Unfortunately there is still no shortage on ignorance and a willingness to share it as Mr. Anderson has so effectively pointed out. Cheers.

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Quotes For 2009

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Quotes For 2008

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